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	<title>Comments on: Best of the Decade Derby: Quick notes on Pixar, Hollywood classicism and animation after watching The Incredibles</title>
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		<title>By: itjobs55</title>
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		<dc:creator>itjobs55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting blog&lt;br&gt;For more jobs visit  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.staffingpower.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.staffingpower.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting blog<br />For more jobs visit  <a href="http://www.staffingpower.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.staffingpower.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: alexrobino</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexrobino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you might feel like something is missing from Spirited Away because some of the symbolism and imagery went over your head - this isn&#039;t your fault as the film simply isn&#039;t that accessible to cultures not familiar with the Shinto religion. I took a class on it in college and that lent to my appreciation of the film, I feel - on top of the coming of age story. But it really is an environmental film on top of that.... ... ...like most Miyazaki films, now that I think about it. God, I love that man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you might feel like something is missing from Spirited Away because some of the symbolism and imagery went over your head &#8211; this isn&#39;t your fault as the film simply isn&#39;t that accessible to cultures not familiar with the Shinto religion. I took a class on it in college and that lent to my appreciation of the film, I feel &#8211; on top of the coming of age story. But it really is an environmental film on top of that&#8230;. &#8230; &#8230;like most Miyazaki films, now that I think about it. God, I love that man.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;ve talked about this already, but what about Satoshi Kon&#039;s &quot;Millenium Princess?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not sure if you&#39;ve talked about this already, but what about Satoshi Kon&#39;s &#8220;Millenium Princess?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: alsolikelife</title>
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		<dc:creator>alsolikelife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh man, do I have to watch MONSTERS, INC. on top of everything else? I just got HOWL&#039;S MOVING CASTLE in today... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t see anything wrong with children as heroes, I don&#039;t think that bothers me too much. I guess it&#039;s more a matter of how the child&#039;s perspective is conveyed. In that regard I still don&#039;t find Miyazaki as cloying as one might fear. There&#039;s just something kind of correct or righteous about it that doesn&#039;t leave me wondering about life like the greatest movies do. It&#039;s more a sense of awe at how amazing his animation is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man, do I have to watch MONSTERS, INC. on top of everything else? I just got HOWL&#39;S MOVING CASTLE in today&#8230; </p>
<p>I don&#39;t see anything wrong with children as heroes, I don&#39;t think that bothers me too much. I guess it&#39;s more a matter of how the child&#39;s perspective is conveyed. In that regard I still don&#39;t find Miyazaki as cloying as one might fear. There&#39;s just something kind of correct or righteous about it that doesn&#39;t leave me wondering about life like the greatest movies do. It&#39;s more a sense of awe at how amazing his animation is.</p>
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		<title>By: christianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>christianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The philosophical underpinnings of The Incredibles are so much Randian mush, but I think it might be of a piece with the subject matter, given that the superhero archetype is inherently fascist. It doesn&#039;t bother me much, especially since Ratatouille more or less clarifies what Bird means. But a movie shouldn&#039;t need another movie to explain it. Still an absolute wonderment, though, and better than any other superhero movie of the decade by a wide margin. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My own favorite of Pixar&#039;s movies--and one that falls within the decade--remains Monsters, Inc., which is a film of such lunatic invention that it&#039;s almost a surprise when it provides the emotional gut-punch at the end, when Sully opens the door and we hear Boo&#039;s voice go &quot;Kitty!&quot; The last time I watched it, it had me bawling. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I won&#039;t gainsay WALL-E or Up, though, which in their degrees are as creative and as beautiful. I think the weightless pas de deux between WALL-E and EVE might be the most beautiful thing I&#039;ve seen in a film all decade, while &quot;the montage&quot; in Up packs the most emotional wallop (in retrospect, this reminds me a bit of the first panther-stalking scene in Val Lewton&#039;s The Leopard Man, which so blows away the audience that the rest of the movie can&#039;t possibly hope to live up to it). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I remain unconverted by Miyazaki. I&#039;m not entirely sure what it is that keeps me at arms length, but there&#039;s...something. I feel about the same as you regarding Spirited Away, and I&#039;ll extend that to Princess Mononoke, too. I liked Howl&#039;s Moving Castle more than either, but not enough that I need to revisit it (my partner, on the other hand, has been lobbying to add it to our mutual collection, so I&#039;ll relent eventually). Thinking about this as I write, I think it might be Miyazaki&#039;s emphasis on children as heroes that bothers me. I think there&#039;s an infantilism involved that bothers me. I think it&#039;s significant that my favorite of his movies is Porco Rosso, in which this element is diminished. Up avoids this very pointedly, don&#039;t you think?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as Hollywood classicism goes, I&#039;m partial to Kevin Costner&#039;s Open Range, which unfortunately looks a LOT worse on a television than it did on a big screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The philosophical underpinnings of The Incredibles are so much Randian mush, but I think it might be of a piece with the subject matter, given that the superhero archetype is inherently fascist. It doesn&#39;t bother me much, especially since Ratatouille more or less clarifies what Bird means. But a movie shouldn&#39;t need another movie to explain it. Still an absolute wonderment, though, and better than any other superhero movie of the decade by a wide margin. </p>
<p>My own favorite of Pixar&#39;s movies&#8211;and one that falls within the decade&#8211;remains Monsters, Inc., which is a film of such lunatic invention that it&#39;s almost a surprise when it provides the emotional gut-punch at the end, when Sully opens the door and we hear Boo&#39;s voice go &#8220;Kitty!&#8221; The last time I watched it, it had me bawling. </p>
<p>I won&#39;t gainsay WALL-E or Up, though, which in their degrees are as creative and as beautiful. I think the weightless pas de deux between WALL-E and EVE might be the most beautiful thing I&#39;ve seen in a film all decade, while &#8220;the montage&#8221; in Up packs the most emotional wallop (in retrospect, this reminds me a bit of the first panther-stalking scene in Val Lewton&#39;s The Leopard Man, which so blows away the audience that the rest of the movie can&#39;t possibly hope to live up to it). </p>
<p>I remain unconverted by Miyazaki. I&#39;m not entirely sure what it is that keeps me at arms length, but there&#39;s&#8230;something. I feel about the same as you regarding Spirited Away, and I&#39;ll extend that to Princess Mononoke, too. I liked Howl&#39;s Moving Castle more than either, but not enough that I need to revisit it (my partner, on the other hand, has been lobbying to add it to our mutual collection, so I&#39;ll relent eventually). Thinking about this as I write, I think it might be Miyazaki&#39;s emphasis on children as heroes that bothers me. I think there&#39;s an infantilism involved that bothers me. I think it&#39;s significant that my favorite of his movies is Porco Rosso, in which this element is diminished. Up avoids this very pointedly, don&#39;t you think?</p>
<p>As far as Hollywood classicism goes, I&#39;m partial to Kevin Costner&#39;s Open Range, which unfortunately looks a LOT worse on a television than it did on a big screen.</p>
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		<title>By: robertoquezada_dardon</title>
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		<dc:creator>robertoquezada_dardon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:) yeah, you better see it again.  It&#039;s not &quot;a&quot; photo, it&#039;s the whole damned album. You use the term &quot;beautiful film&quot; and that conjures up, among other things, cinematography to me.  The lighting and camera work in Ratatouille were exceptional and those two elements would have to be present as well in a film making the top list, no?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Right on with the quick adjustment problem in Wall-E. When I mentioned this to a Wall-E lover they faulted me for not staying for the crawl ups where that was all explained!  Any movie that has to finish explaining a weakly developed key theme in their story by resorting to hyroglyphics during the end credits  makes it highly suspect in my book :).  RQD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://alsolikelife.com/shooting/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  yeah, you better see it again.  It&#39;s not &#8220;a&#8221; photo, it&#39;s the whole damned album. You use the term &#8220;beautiful film&#8221; and that conjures up, among other things, cinematography to me.  The lighting and camera work in Ratatouille were exceptional and those two elements would have to be present as well in a film making the top list, no?  </p>
<p>Right on with the quick adjustment problem in Wall-E. When I mentioned this to a Wall-E lover they faulted me for not staying for the crawl ups where that was all explained!  Any movie that has to finish explaining a weakly developed key theme in their story by resorting to hyroglyphics during the end credits  makes it highly suspect in my book <img src='http://alsolikelife.com/shooting/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  RQD</p>
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		<title>By: alsolikelife</title>
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		<dc:creator>alsolikelife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, I quite liked the way the human beings were portrayed in WALL-E as a bunch of spineless hyperconsumers, and the film had a lot of fun exploring that gigantic spaceship. What I didn&#039;t buy at all was how quickly they adjusted to becoming a techno-agrarian society again (not to mention that their puny bone structure could adjust to Earth&#039;s gravitation). It was all green Hollywood wish fulfillment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I will have to see UP again to make a final determination, but I&#039;m pretty convinced it&#039;s a beautiful film. As far as that photo goes, are you sure he wasn&#039;t simply reminded of them rather than seeing them for the first time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, I quite liked the way the human beings were portrayed in WALL-E as a bunch of spineless hyperconsumers, and the film had a lot of fun exploring that gigantic spaceship. What I didn&#39;t buy at all was how quickly they adjusted to becoming a techno-agrarian society again (not to mention that their puny bone structure could adjust to Earth&#39;s gravitation). It was all green Hollywood wish fulfillment.</p>
<p>I will have to see UP again to make a final determination, but I&#39;m pretty convinced it&#39;s a beautiful film. As far as that photo goes, are you sure he wasn&#39;t simply reminded of them rather than seeing them for the first time?</p>
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		<title>By: robertoquezada_dardon</title>
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		<dc:creator>robertoquezada_dardon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that both Wall-E and Up started out very strong, heading towards what I would have considetered among the best Pixar films made, but both quickly crashed and burned as soon in their second and third acts.  Wall-E jumped the shark as soon as it introduced the poorly developed characters living in outerspace and tried to develope a hasty politically-correct and ulitmately shallow and sappy story about the perils that await the human race if they don&#039;t change their ways.  Who cared about anyone else besides Wall-E and his object of desire?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Once the beautiful montage and clever newsreel opening of Up was over, I felt like I was witnessing the emperor in his new clothes.  The premise was wonderful, the execution of the story, the quick change in the hero&#039;s arc of self-knowledge (brought about the really sappy discovery of photographs he had never seen -- who the hell took those pictures by the way???  Does it matter?  uh -- yes.  If your character&#039;s whole character development is going to pivot on the device), etc. etc.  Did it&#039;s playing at Cannes color critic&#039;s opinion of this movie or what?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Both of your picks started strong but don&#039;t hold a candle to (in my order of preference) Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Ratatouille, Spirited Away.&lt;br&gt;--RQD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that both Wall-E and Up started out very strong, heading towards what I would have considetered among the best Pixar films made, but both quickly crashed and burned as soon in their second and third acts.  Wall-E jumped the shark as soon as it introduced the poorly developed characters living in outerspace and tried to develope a hasty politically-correct and ulitmately shallow and sappy story about the perils that await the human race if they don&#39;t change their ways.  Who cared about anyone else besides Wall-E and his object of desire?</p>
<p>Once the beautiful montage and clever newsreel opening of Up was over, I felt like I was witnessing the emperor in his new clothes.  The premise was wonderful, the execution of the story, the quick change in the hero&#39;s arc of self-knowledge (brought about the really sappy discovery of photographs he had never seen &#8212; who the hell took those pictures by the way???  Does it matter?  uh &#8212; yes.  If your character&#39;s whole character development is going to pivot on the device), etc. etc.  Did it&#39;s playing at Cannes color critic&#39;s opinion of this movie or what?</p>
<p>Both of your picks started strong but don&#39;t hold a candle to (in my order of preference) Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Ratatouille, Spirited Away.<br />&#8211;RQD</p>
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		<title>By: Greg S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same problem with both Wall-E and Up: They both have very ambitious first acts that seem to get fazed out for the rest of the film for something more typical. I found this more obvious in Up, when we rather jarringly go from Fredricksen&#039;s emotional journey to introducing silly side characters and Action (tm) and one of Pixar&#039;s more flatter villains.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These parts aren&#039;t exactly bad, but they left me wishing I could just rewind and watch those amazing first acts again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ratatouille is my favorite Pixar, for the record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same problem with both Wall-E and Up: They both have very ambitious first acts that seem to get fazed out for the rest of the film for something more typical. I found this more obvious in Up, when we rather jarringly go from Fredricksen&#39;s emotional journey to introducing silly side characters and Action &#8482; and one of Pixar&#39;s more flatter villains.</p>
<p>These parts aren&#39;t exactly bad, but they left me wishing I could just rewind and watch those amazing first acts again.</p>
<p>Ratatouille is my favorite Pixar, for the record.</p>
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